Comments on: The Overhype

by: A J

Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:12:25 +0000

And finally to cap this thread:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/25/study_ranks_delaware_no_1_for_work_environment_louisiana_last/

by: Chris L

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:57:59 +0000

This thread has taken a turn for the bizarre, apparently due to Lindsey Lohan. Who is also overhyped, ironically enough.

by: Dan M

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:48:26 +0000

Where in the bible does it say that a man can’t fire off some knuckle-children in the privacy of his own neighbor’s living room while his neighbor’s at work because I don’t have a DVD player? Well, I don’t know where it says it because the Bible was way too long to read.

You know what else really grinds my gears? This Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan with all those little outfits, jumping around there on stage, half-naked with your little outfits. Ya know? You’re a… You’re out there jumping around and I’m just sitting here with my beer. So, what am I supposed to do? What you want? You know, are we gonna go out? Is that what you’re trying to - why why are you leaping around there, throwing those things all up in my, over there in my face? What do you want, Lindsay? Tell me what you want? Well, I’ll tell you what you want, you want nothing. You want nothing. All right? Because we all know that no woman anywhere wants to have sex with anyone, and to titillate us with any thoughts otherwise is - is just bogus.

by: Chris L

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:39:30 +0000

Tell me, Dan, what really grinds your gears?

by: Dan M

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:42:26 +0000

You know what really grinds my gears?…..

by: Steve D

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:26:10 +0000

Ah, perhaps not with Island Thunder, but definitely one could gripe about costly expansion packs that you need in order to play a lot of good campaigns online (such as Neverwinter Nights). That sounds like the start of another article…

by: Chris L

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:04:06 +0000

Take your Ghost Recon and suck it, mouth breather. Ghost Recon outings are overhyped. I mean, look at the price: to have a Ghost Recon outing with anyone good you have to get Ghost Recon AND Island Thunder plus all of the patches and fan mods. Talk about forcing a consumer into the cost of a bundle.

You suck. And so do AJ’s testicles.

by: Jeff S

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:23:03 +0000

Let’s end this petty squabble. If you see something you want to play, buy it. If you don’t, spend your money elsewhere. All this energy should be put into organizing our next Ghost Recon outing.

by: Dan M

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:13:31 +0000

I think you’re looking at it backwards Steve. The base system is not the Core system. The base system is the Premium. Consider that one to be the normal Xbox360. That is the one that should be considered de facto. The Core system is a stripped down Lite version that brings the price below $400. Not all the way to $299, mind you, since you’ll still need a memory card at the very least in order to save games, but this is no different than the PS2, which still to this day sells in a package that does not have the means to save your games on its own.

I would estimate that the first price drop the unit will see will be a $350 package that forgoes the extras such as remote, headset, and hi-def cables, but will include the hard drive and a wired controller. This will be the true “essential” system and it will fall between the bare minimum they can afford to let the unit go for and the premium price they will enjoy at launch. As soon as it’s feasible for them to do so, they will drop the Core package altogether and the hard drive will become a standard base factor at the $299 price point.

I think the fundamental problem with your argument, Steve, is the recurrence of the words “right away”. Nobody is saying you have to get one “right away”. Nobody is saying you have to get a game for it “right away”. If you have no game “right away”, then you have no need for a hard drive or memory card “right away”. Presumably, however, if and when you do decide to pick up an Xbox360, these are things that you will find very useful. The hard drive alone makes up for the difference in price between the Core and Premium package. Everything else included should be considered a freebie. Can you fault a company for including wireless control out-of-the-box, a Live membership, headset and media remote free of charge with the purchase of the system? I really don’t think we’ve seen anything like this in the US since the launch of the NES with light gun and retarded robot, since Sony refused to launch a standalone version of the PSP in conjunction w/ the “Value Pack” in the US and give consumers the option.

Don’t get it right away. Plenty of others will. I will not be one of them, but that doesn’t mean that I think that they’re ripping everyone off. Unless it comes as a welcome Christmas or birthday gift, $400 is just more than I will pay for a console when I have a plethora of untouched Xbox titles to go through and a gigaplethora of PC titles backlogged. By the time I’m ready to pay for Xbox360, it will be in my price range and it will have a number of quality must-buy titles.

by: Steve D

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:54:15 +0000

Steve - if your responses to my comments are truly the opinions you intended to present in your original post, than you were unsuccessful. Given your history of bashing anything Microsoft and phalating anything Mac, you need to be more careful if you wish to make an unbiased, general comment on over-hyping rather than your usual diatribe.

My article stands as-is.

Apple products have nothing to do with this article, I think you’re reading way too much into what I’m writing. The article was certainly not meant to be a general comment on overhyping, it’s specifically talking about the Xbox 360. You’d think that would be obivous, but I guess not.

The Xbox 360 may be a great console, who knows? My point is just that the console is getting a ton of hype right now. Some might say this hype is undeserved.

I apologize if you don’t like or don’t understand my articles, Tim.

For the record, I’m probably buying a PS3 instead of the 360. We’ll see. I might just by the 360 to spite Steve…

I’m also on the fence. It’s hard to tell what these consoles and games are going to be like before they come out. I’m trying not to get caught up in the marketing, but it’s hard not to.

If you want to shell out a few hundred bucks just to spite me, Tim, go ahead. I might just surprise you and pick up an Xbox 360 for myself—but I’d only do it to play the games.